Everything that comes out of Rob Granito’s mouth smells of ass and cheese doodles UPDATED
on May 19th, 2011You may have heard of comic fandom’s most notorious huckster, Rob Granito. He spent nearly a decade on the convention circuit plagiarizing the work of his betters, and making lofty claims to credits most people don’t get after 20 years in publishing, despite the fact that no one in the business has ever heard of the guy.
Because I was goofing off on the internet instead of drawing comics (which is what real pros do,) I decided to dig into this goofball’s background to see if he was guilty as accused. Since the accusations were so off the scale, even I had trouble believing anyone was that big of a fraud.
The only “official” work I could find from this guy was as a sketch card artist for Upper Deck (and the jury is out on that credit: some of his cards appear to be printed). It does not appear he has ever worked for Marvel or DC Comics, or on any of the famous comic books he claims to have drawn. If his birthdate of 1975 is correct, he would have to be a kid in high school drawing mainstream comics, which is pretty rare. If true, everyone would have heard of this guy. He claims to have ghosted an impressive list of artists from Brian Stelfreeze to George Perez.
Then I found this on Granito’s Facebook page (now gone,) a post in which he cynically exploited the death of Dwayne McDuffie by claiming he worked with the fellow. Dwayne was not only not yet cold, but Granito posted the ploy the day Dwayne died.
A bunch of people snatched my screenshot, spread it around the internet, and all hell broke loose. Plagiarism is one thing, but dancing on the grave of a beloved fellow pro is another level of shittery altogether.
Granito and his wife spent many days trying to clean up their mess by adopting a variety of online identities, and by behaving like wahoos, eventually sinking low enough to decide that their newfound internet asshole status should be paid for. They demanded $200 for interviews.
The nuttery eventually gave way to some interesting discussions about the nature of plagiarism, and the ethical use of swipe:
JESUS H Christ on a totem pole, HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHAT PLAGIARISM MEANS? Did IQ’s drop precipitously when they invented the internet, or were all of these stupid people just out there hanging about unnoticed before they learned to type and display these wanton acts of idiocy?
No one CARES if you use your own photo reference. For God’s sake, you’re supposed to! Why do you think REAL illustrators pay thousands of bucks for models, photographers, and costumes?
And today, the intrepid Rich Johnston sat down with Rob Granito for an (unpaid) interview, ten questions which reveal a stunning lack of intellect, ethics, and basic grammar. This is how Granito defines “working with” someone:
I did work with Dwayne McDuffie, at least, I considered it working with him because he gave me pointers. I’ll tell you the story. A couple of years ago, at a con, I was doing fan sketches, and one fan asked for a sketch of Luke Cage, so I was like, cool. And I started it but didn’t really like it and decided to start a new one. So I ripped the other one up, and Dwayne McDuffie was going around the floor, and I had met him before, so he came up to look over my shoulder to see what I was drawing, you know, friendly and stuff. So he sees me doing this Luke Cage, and he started giving me advice, because he told me, this was such an important character to him from when he was a kid.
So, like, if you talk to somebody at a convention, it’s totally like working with someone.
Does anyone actually believe Dwayne McDuffie would tell anyone to draw Luke Cage to look more “gangsta”?
Using Granito-world logic, I have worked with Jack Kirby, Neil Adams, Harlan Ellison, Burne Hogarth, Frank Miller, Richard Taylor of WETA, the President of the United States, and half the US Senate.
I hope Granito goes away now.
UPDATE: Interesting comments thread post by Sara Teague:
Ok, not that it’s not obvious, but he’s lying, particularly about the Bruce Timm stuff. I spoke with him directly in Toronto. He didn’t imply he’d worked with Bruce Timm, he said, verbatim, that he was one of the storyboard and background artist for the entire duration of not only the Batman Animated Series, but also Superman the Animated Series as well as Batman Beyond and JLU. He talked about how he fought to keep the original ending of the Return of the Joker movie. He also claimed to have worked on Samurai Jack, and that one of his canvas paintings was used as promotional art for Cartoon Network (this was the one that was supposedly signed by Phil Lamarr). This is actually when I started to catch on that the guy was lying, because why in the world would a network use a painted canvas for promotion? He talked about the voice actors methods of working, and what they’re like as people since he’d met them all in his work (another red flag–how many animators get to sit in on voice recording sessions? Also this guy’s NY accent was thicker than peasoup, when and where did he do this animation work? It’s not done in NY). He lied to our faces, and took our money, period. Yes, some of the people who bought his artwork liked it–they liked it because it resembled work be famous and talented artists. He claimed to be something he’s not, and it directly translated into sales.
I’d hoped he would just come clean, and offer his apologies, but he’s just going to keep on lying, sticking to things that we cant prove are untrue, like that awful Dwayne McDuffie story (more gangsta? Ick!). But I can tell you first hand, he directly lied about his involvement and credentials about the Bruce Timm work.




Wow. You rarely see spin-control that desperate and transparent outside of politics.
It’s not even spin control. Spin control would require two brain cells to bang together. I’m having a hard time believing this duo has that much. It’s more like “Blah blah blah lunacy insanity blah our home-planet is made out of rainbow diamond cheese I poop out of my nostrils blah blah blah a surprising corret use of a capital letter.”
Just.. no. How neither one of these people has never been locked up in an insitution is beyond me.
And oy vey with my spelling errors. I have been reading articles on RG, so I’m totally collaborating with him on my spelling. Sorry about that.
Well, you know what this means? That commission I got from you a couple of years ago is my ticket to claiming we worked together! Whoo-hoo!!!! And the professionals I’ve talked to over the years, I should be a super-certified professional myself now! Thanks Rob Granito! Because of you I now have a license to gain notoriety and print money…
I don’t think this guy is ill, unless lying liar who lies is an illness.
I mentioned him before, but I knew a small time writer who pulled crap like this a lot. I had no idea how bad it was until one day I found out he was passing himself off as my agent and manager because I had let him sell some of my stuff on consignment. He would call conventions and other events and tell them I would not attend unless he was there too, all expenses paid. I have no idea how long he got away with it.
I once bought a fan named Rikk a grilled cheese sandwich at Denny’s at a Sci-Con convention back in 1989. For the next decade, this goofball went all around mid-Atlantic fandom telling everyone he was my ex-boyfriend and I’d done him wrong. I’ve had several fake boyfriends in fandom, including the writer guy.
If I were actually running around with that many dudes, I’d never get any drawing done.
I have no idea why people pull shit like this.
In an age when a fact-check is an email away, I’m baffled he got away with this crap for so long. I guess it’s true that a certain segment of the population wants desperately for someone to bullshit them.
I think back on the 1980′s, and how many people got away with this stuff as a matter of course before the internet. And I shudder.
His logic concerning his and Dwayne McDuffie’s collaboration just makes my head hurt in it’s complete stupidity. He is obviously making this up as a way to spin the situation. But, he would have to be an even bigger simpleton than Forrest Gump to actually believe that crap, especially considering how long he’s “been in the industry.”
Just for grins, I went to IMdB, which many consider a source of record for credits, and checked under Rob Granito.
Nothing.
Then I checked the storyboard artists for Batman: the Animated Series.
Again nothing.
Not that this is a surprise, but confirmation is our friend.
I was also amused by his claim that he had a nice conversation with a DC Comics editor, who then handed Rob his business card with the vague “keep in touch” line, and Granito cannot remember the editor’s name and thinks he just “lost” the card. (This in response to a question about the mysterious Jay Didillo, or whatever the name was).
Unbelievable. I’m pretty sure any aspiring writer or artist knows the name of every editor they’ve ever talked with (or darned near – I can certainly rattle off the names of those I’ve had contact with).
Cool, so I can add “worked with Mr Rogers” to my resume because I spoke with him for 2 minutes in a restaurant and “law partners with Gloria Allred” because I took her dinner reservation one time.
Also, me and Colleen are like Eastman and Laird, SRSLY. Co-workers and BFFs for life. I co-created ADS you know.
Now if you’ll excuse me I have to RUUUUUUNNNNNNNNNN!!!!
(popped back in to say oh btw colleen your blog titles are awesome. “Ass and Cheese Doodles” is just beautiful)
(wipes away tear, starts running again)
and one more because I can do three in a row and I’m actually reading the BC thread: it’s pointed out that au contraire, Dwayne McDuffie HATED Luke Cage. So yeah, I call BS on the “more gangsta” line too. Rob Granito doesn’t know dick one about the people he supposedly is so close to.
Rob Granito probably turns his NY Mets cap backwards and flashes himself gang signs while singing “Pretty Fly For A White Guy” to himself in the key of R flat major fuckwad.
Oh… and calling Jamal Igle “Lamar”?
And has the gall to say he’s a “comic book artist”, when he doesn’t even know names of current pros and editors. His lightbulb is so dim it might as well be painted black.
Dwayne was very articulate, and didn’t run about flashing gang signs and talkin’ “gangsta”.
@ Arlene:
I am scared of cheese doodles. Years ago, I read a short story by George R.R. Martin entitled “The Pear Shaped Man,” in which cheese doodles are a sinister symbol:
“He was standing on the stoop when I got home,” Angie said, grinning. She came across the room. “He said to give you these.” Her hand emerged from behind her back. It was full of fat, orange worms, little flaking twists of corn and cheese that curled between her fingers and left powdery stains on the palm of her hand. “For you,” Angie repeated, laughing. “For you.”
You can read an excerpt and buy it here:
http://www.fictionwise.com/ebooks/b693/The-Pear-Shaped-Man/George-RR-Martin/?si=0
I had nightmares after reading that story.
BTW, a friend of mine, Steve Bennett, who lived in Japan informed me that the US Marine Corps credit was also bogus. Not that that is any surprise, but apparently, Granito made photocopies of one of his works and sent them gratis to some troops, hence the US Marine Corps credit.
Using that logic, I can claim all the US armed forces as a client since I gave stuff to the U.S.O.
First, Tootsie Rolls. Now, cheese doodles.
I now dub Ron Granito ‘Cheese Doodle.’
You hit on it, Colleen, – Rob has discover a gateway to a new world – Granito World (somewhat akin to Bizarro World).
On Granito World, the rules of logic as we know them do not apply. Instead, Granito World is ruled by Granito logic.
On Granito World, Sybil Danning has had my love child and I have had relationships with Sigourney Weaver and Erin Grey among others. Clint Eastwood is my BFF and Ahhnold is my bodyguard.
See how it all makes sense.
I’m sure it’s just a matter of time before some Occasional Nutter in Fandom Enabler dashes forward to write a pity piece about how this guy is obviously ill and deserves sympathy. I don’t think he’s crazy (and crazy doesn’t mean you’re not legally culpable,) I think he’s a pathological liar who is so accustomed to dealing with gullible people, that now that he’s in the big leagues, he can’t figure out why his smarm no longer works.
Granito is a stupid liar, he can’t up his game, and he’s just Peter Principled himself out of his own racket.
Seriously, we’ve all dealt with bigger frauds than this. He gets attention because he’s so ridiculous about it.
Your mention of “bigger frauds” prompted me to go check up on my “favorite” twit, the Olney. Surprisingly, for all his wonky prose, he’s actually slightly more comprehensible than Granito’s prose. I never thought I’d encounter someone whose writing was worse than Rick’s, but there you are….
I pointed out that you’d switched your tags in an art show once so I am your art director and I demand mah cut of your badjillion dollars!
Okay, I couldn’t even keep a straight face long enough to type that…XD XD XD XD XD XD XD